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Posted: September/22/2011 at 13:37
IOR two-12x36 Spartan Tactical 35mm Burglarize Telescopic Stock # - 212366
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IOR 2-12x36 Spartan Tactical 35mm Rifle Scope Stock # - 212632
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Anyone give me the skinny on these? Personal use? Thoughts? anything similar that would be amend for an AR or FNAR?
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Haven't used either, but a few observations.
1. I don't similar calibrated turrets unless they are printed with my data ( Kenton comes to heed.)
ii. I understand the rational for calibrating turrets and reticles to mil-specific ammo, but don't see why they offer a calibrated turret and a calibrated reticle. I would personally want either reticle or turret to be some mutual angular measure, mils or MOA.
three. The 35mm tubes have given IOR problems in the past. I understand most of those problems are backside them, simply I hesitate to buy their 35mm tubes.
4. The MP-eight reticle is among my favorites, cracking design, very useful.
5. IOR FFP scopes commonly tunnel at the lesser, that bugs me. Non sure if these exercise, only I would verify before buying - peculiarly if tunneling bugs you besides.
6. 12X with a 36mm objective makes for a scope all-time used in straight sunlight or not at max power.
I take owned many IORs over the years, liked about of them. I'd be OK with something calibrated on the scope, just would never buy that second iteration in that setup, even if I had a 308 and/or .223.
Purchase one and give u.s. a review.
What are you doing with the AR and/or FNAR? At that cost, it is very near the 2.5-10x32 Nightforce, which is a nice trivial scope.
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Mainly just an intel dig. Thinking of a future build/purchase and options.
They would both be more "zombie" guns than annihilation else.
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My general advice for civilian ARs is as follows: a good 1-iv or Aimpoint, unless used for hunting.
In a "defend home and life" scenario, you own't taking 500 1000 shots, why scope with something built for engaging targets way out there? A zombie 500 yards away is not a threat (unless they are the "28 days later" zombies, and then you are screwed regardless of your range capabilities.)
My personal opinion: a 223-cal defense force AR is no place for a 2-12 or the likes. Quite often, too much telescopic is far worse than no telescopic at all.
Opinions vary.
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IOR'due south ii-12x36 is a SFP telescopic. It is at its all-time with MP-8 reticle in a DMR function. The BDC turret is reasonably well calibrated for 168gr and 175gr and tin be hands enough adapted to 77gr SMK 223 rifles out to 600 yards.
Reliability wise, I am not aware of any particular problems with the ii-12x models (I used to own a 2-12x32). Higher magnification versions had some bug, but they seem to have been largely resolved.
2-12x36 has 3mm exit pupil at highest magnification which perfectly usable in broad daylight. In adept light yous'll desire to dial magnification down of class.
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SFP with calibrated reticles?
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SFP with calibrated reticles?
At a unmarried magnification, manifestly. Happens all the time. As you lot recall, I am find the concept of holdover reticles in SFP idiotic, but they are the rage these days, so I may be solitary on that.
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Sorry to bring upward this topic but I had some questions nearly the IOR. I am pretty new to scopes and I've used more often than not iron sights. However I want to put a scope on my AR-15 and the two-12x36 seems similar an interesting choice, from what I've seen anyway information technology looks pretty compact given it's magnification range which is a plus.
Now it'south designed for .308 simply as far equally I empathise information technology, there's zip stopping you from finding out what each height setting corresponds to wit your rifle/ammo, right?
I do some IPSC shooting and but general shooting at targets almost of the time with my AR and I would exist interested in a scope that would be a good multi-tasker, the ane.5-8x model IOR has is also interesting, though from the FEW pictures you lot can find of a mounted Spartan, it looks like the 1.5-8x is almost as big so not sure if there's a point in going with that ane.
Anyhow I recollect a 2x lower might not be that large an issue, I was considering an ACOG TA-11 before I found out how hard they where to acquire when yous are in non in america (I am in Finland).
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Sorry to bring upwardly this topic but I had some questions virtually the IOR. I am pretty new to scopes and I've used more often than not iron sights. However I desire to put a scope on my AR-15 and the 2-12x36 seems like an interesting choice, from what I've seen anyhow information technology looks pretty compact given it'due south magnification range which is a plus.
Now information technology'due south designed for .308 but as far as I understand it, at that place's goose egg stopping you from finding out what each elevation setting corresponds to wit your rifle/ammo, right?
I do some IPSC shooting and but general shooting at targets almost of the time with my AR and I would be interested in a scope that would be a adept multi-tasker, the 1.5-8x model IOR has is also interesting, though from the FEW pictures you can find of a mounted Spartan, it looks like the i.v-8x is virtually equally large so not certain if there's a point in going with that 1.
Anyway I call back a 2x lower might non be that big an event, I was considering an ACOG TA-11 earlier I found out how hard they where to acquire when you are in not in america (I am in Finland).
The turret on the 2-12x36 is indeed designed for the 308Win, but you can figure out what range the holdovers correspond to for any cartridge. The numbers on the turret might not match, but y'all tin can probably figure out a fashion to relabel them if yous are then inclined. If yous shoot heavy bullets in your IOR (mine likes the 77gr ones), so the BDC is actually pretty close especially if y'all sight in itnelligently.
Between the 1.five-8x26 and 2-12x36, the departure in weight is minor, but in terms of size the i.5-8x26 is a fair bit shorter and more compact.
Go along in mind that IOR at present too has a ane-10x26 and at that place is a simpler 1.25-10x26 coming that will make a nice alternative to the ane.v-8x
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Looks great...except for being an IOR.....
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Haters gonna detest...
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I shudder to recollect I about bought ane of these. Not because it'due south an IOR, but because of the SPF/BDC ridiculousness. How 'bout "Wanna Likers Gonna Pass"?
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Continue in mind that IOR now also has a 1-10x26 and at that place is a simpler 1.25-10x26 coming that will make a nice alternative to the 1.v-8x
Yeah the offset one is as well costly for me, the latter one sounds interesting though, if they can become the toll downward.
TBH I would be happy with a i.25-6x or 8x equally long every bit they kept it in a small package, a 30mm tube would be nice.
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Looks cracking...except for beingness an IOR.....
In that location'due south the Inexpensive trick I know.
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The math is pretty straightforward... I don't find it a problem...
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I, similar Koshkin and many others, do actually like the IOR MP-8 reticle. Had two of them.
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Mark, I seem to think this chat, it'southward similar deja vu.
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Mark, I seem to remember this conversation, it's like deja vu.
... all over once again...
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Marker, I seem to retrieve this chat, information technology'south like deja vu.
My dislike of IOR is well documented, my friend.....but I digress.
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